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[00:40] <snover> seems were not quite out of the invalidated pointer woods yet; when loading a game, the segment manager apparently gets reset in the middle of a kListEachElementDo.
[00:55] <snover> in torin. sq6 is ok.
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[02:19] <GitHub105> scummvm/master 440f092 Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Implemented more game classes
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[03:01] <GitHub38> scummvm/master b128ba1 Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Remainder of CBilgeSuccUBus class
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[03:07] <GitHub99> scummvm/master cbf5fb0 Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Move BilgeSuccUBus & ParrotSuccUBus to npcs/ folder
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[08:23] <GitHub24> [scummvm] sev- opened pull request #806: BUILD: Switch SDL backend to SDL2 by default. SDL1 is still a fallback. (master...sdl2-switch) https://git.io/v6gqj
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[08:24] <Begasus> _sev, whould it require a special configure option on build time, or does it check and uses the SDL version available?
[08:25] <rootfather> All checks have failed.
[08:28] <rootfather> but according to the travis-ci log, the problem is not the code, but something went wrong on travis itself
[08:32] <wjp> their ubuntu distro might not have libsdl2 yet
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[08:33] <waltervn> morning
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[08:35] <rootfather> wjp yeah, seems that libsdl2-dev isn't in 12.04
[08:35] <rootfather> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libsdl2-dev&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[08:36] <m_kiewitz> wtf
[08:36] <m_kiewitz> http://www.ebay.de/itm/Quest-for-Glory-IV-Shadows-of-Darkness-PC-Sierra-Orginal-/162169172214?
[08:37] <rootfather> wjp _sev using "dist": "trusty" in travis.yml should help.
[08:41] <rootfather> m_kiewitz: is this game *that* rare to justify this price?
[08:46] <WooShell> good meowning =^.^=
[08:47] <m_kiewitz> nope
[08:47] <m_kiewitz> it's rare to get it in proper condition, but well that box doesn't look that great either
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[08:59] <WooShell> anyone around who could help me with a bit of retrogaming trickery? (DOS..)
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[09:02] <WooShell> i can't get dos6.22 recognize more than 472mb of my hdd.. even though officially it _should_ support up to 8gb with partitions of 2gb
[09:03] <t0by> WooShell, shot in the dark: cluster size?
[09:03] <m_kiewitz> WooShell: probably an overflow
[09:03] <m_kiewitz> just create the partition using something else
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[09:04] <t0by> m_kiewitz, I take it WooShell has already partitioned the disk?
[09:04] <m_kiewitz> doesn't sound like that to me
[09:04] <WooShell> m_kiewitz: if i create the partitions with e.g. the win98 bootdisk (with fat16 only), DOS will not recognize the partition table at all
[09:05] <m_kiewitz> o_O
[09:05] Action: t0by scratches head
[09:05] <m_kiewitz> is it marked as primary?
[09:05] <WooShell> yes
[09:05] <m_kiewitz> how large did you make it? 2 gb?
[09:06] <rootfather> WooShell: detection in BIOS is correct?
[09:06] <WooShell> it's an 8"gb" drive, which gave me 3x 2gb and 1x 1,7gb
[09:06] <m_kiewitz> maybe CHS values for the HDD as incorrect?
[09:06] <WooShell> bios recognizes the drive
[09:06] <WooShell> i tried both LBA and CHS adressing mode, no change
[09:06] <rootfather> what are your chs values?
[09:06] <t0by> Oh right, in the pleistocene DOS actually used the BIOS geometry?
[09:06] <m_kiewitz> what do you mean with "dos will not recognize"? So it starts to boot and then stops?
[09:07] <m_kiewitz> you could also try to install my Air-Boot
[09:07] <m_kiewitz> https://sourceforge.net/projects/air-boot/
[09:07] <t0by> Are we ruling out cluster size at all?
[09:07] <WooShell> m_kiewitz: dos6.22 fdisk reports the partitions as non-dos/unknown, and the setup tool insists on repartitioning the drive
[09:08] <t0by> Uh-oh.
[09:08] <t0by> Doesn't that sound lke "borked geometry"?
[09:08] <m_kiewitz> yes
[09:08] <WooShell> .. and it always repartitions the drive to a primary 472mb and the rest just... gone, i.e. not visible anymore.
[09:08] Action: t0by is actually happy not having to deal with that kind of shit ever again. Go progress!
[09:08] <m_kiewitz> your BIOS is set to auto-detect?
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[09:08] <WooShell> yes
[09:08] <t0by> bad WooShell
[09:09] <WooShell> let me check chs values..
[09:09] <m_kiewitz> are there CHS / LBA values written on your HDD?
[09:09] <m_kiewitz> and I mean written onto the HDD - on a sticker
[09:11] Action: t0by is feeling positively ancient for remembering actually setting the geometry by hand after having written down the values on the sticker.
[09:11] <WooShell> 16938 cyl, 15 head, 63 sec in CHS mode /// 996 cyl, 255 head, 63 secs in LBA mode
[09:11] <WooShell> the CHS values are printed on the drive
[09:11] <m_kiewitz> ?? no i meant LBA mode as in LBA access to the drive via BIOS
[09:12] <m_kiewitz> enter those values directly into BIOS
[09:12] <m_kiewitz> and probably use the LBA mode values
[09:12] <m_kiewitz> then try windows again
[09:12] <m_kiewitz> also maybe try to install air-boot, it checks partition tables before even booting
[09:13] <m_kiewitz> and it loads per default all partition tables before the LBA access range via CHS read commands
[09:13] <t0by> wait, does dos 6 do lba?
[09:13] <m_kiewitz> i doubt it
[09:13] <m_kiewitz> but windows surely does
[09:13] <t0by> uhm
[09:13] <m_kiewitz> also I'm talking about LBA access commands, not LBA mode inside the HDD
[09:14] <t0by> but... but...
[09:14] <m_kiewitz> LBA access just means that the sectors are read without the CHS values but instead using linear numbers
[09:14] <t0by> wouldn't you rather correctly set the CHS geometry by hand and just use fdisk?
[09:14] <t0by> Oh well, you're the expert :)
[09:14] <m_kiewitz> he should set the LBA mode values, 996 cylinders, 255 heads and 63 sectors
[09:15] <m_kiewitz> maybe the auto-detect does some weird things and uses CHS mode
[09:15] <t0by> autodetect always does weird things :)
[09:17] <WooShell> huh? use CHS with the LBA values?
[09:18] <m_kiewitz> those are different things
[09:19] <m_kiewitz> you are able to read sectors from disc via BIOS commands
[09:19] <m_kiewitz> and there are 2 types of BIOS commands. The old ones, that want CHS values, and a new one, that wants a linear number
[09:19] <m_kiewitz> and you can use them together, it has nothing to do with LBA mode inside the harddrive
[09:19] <m_kiewitz> oh and maybe check if there is a jumper on the HDD, that signals LBA mode
[09:21] <m_kiewitz> i mean for example you can read cylinder 0, head 0, sector 1, or you can also read LBA sector 1, that will return the same
[09:21] <m_kiewitz> or you could read cylinder 0, head 1, sector 1, or you can read LBA sector 64, that should also return the same
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[09:21] <m_kiewitz> BUT there may be issues in case CHS wasn't correctly detected, because then those could return different sectors, and that could cause the issues that you are describing
[09:22] <m_kiewitz> and like I said - I'm pretty sure that old DOS uses CHS access commands
[09:22] <rootfather> DOS can only do CHS.
[09:22] <rootfather> I assume the problem is the cyl value.
[09:22] <m_kiewitz> i think PC-DOS can do LBA
[09:22] <rootfather> Try 16383 instead of 16938.
[09:23] <m_kiewitz> well the heads could be a problem too
[09:23] <m_kiewitz> he should better use 996 cylinders, 255 heads and 63 sectors
[09:25] <WooShell> i'll try..
[09:25] <m_kiewitz> and like i said - install air-boot, that will check if all partitions are readable using CHS commands
[09:25] <m_kiewitz> and if they aren't, it will show an error message
[09:26] <m_kiewitz> air-boot will use LBA commands only beyond the CHS limit
[09:26] <m_kiewitz> you can get rid of it using fdisk /mbr, in case you want to
[09:26] <WooShell> writing a disk with it right now
[09:27] <m_kiewitz> it fulls resides inside the MBR (well cylinder 0, track 0)
[09:27] <m_kiewitz> and in case you put it inside another PC to use Windows98 on it, make sure that CHS values are the same
[09:27] <t0by> *shameless plug*
[09:27] <m_kiewitz> :P
[09:27] <m_kiewitz> well it even has an internal text mode setup, all in 63 sectors
[09:28] <m_kiewitz> written in 100% assembly :P
[09:28] <m_kiewitz> well i think actually it needs 50 sectors or so, and plenty of that is tons of text
[09:29] <WooShell> i don't really get how to install airboot, though :p
[09:30] <m_kiewitz> there is a windows installer, which may only work in windows NT+
[09:31] <m_kiewitz> and there is a DOS installer, which I think should work in Windows 9x, not absolutely sure though
[09:31] <m_kiewitz> unless sourceforge has added some adware-installer
[09:31] <m_kiewitz> ah nope
[09:31] <m_kiewitz> just unpack all the files somewhere
[09:31] <m_kiewitz> and then run airboot.com
[09:32] <m_kiewitz> you could try airbootw.exe first for windows
[09:32] <m_kiewitz> but im not sure if that works in windows 9x
[09:32] <m_kiewitz> you could even burn the ISO to CD and then boot up that CD
[09:33] <m_kiewitz> it will install to your primary harddrive though
[09:33] <WooShell> i don't want to install it on the machine i'm on now, though :P
[09:33] <m_kiewitz> so if you have another PC with Windows 9x and hooked up that drive as secondary, then it will install it on the first HDD
[09:35] <m_kiewitz> well anyway just enter CHS values manually into both of your BIOSes
[09:35] <m_kiewitz> then partition that drive using windows 9x and I guess that should work then
[09:41] <WooShell> using LBA geometry with CHS adressing mode gives me 'primary hdd fail' on bios check
[09:41] <WooShell> reducing the cylinders to 16338 doesn't change anything for dos6
[09:42] <m_kiewitz> CHS adressing mode?
[09:42] <m_kiewitz> so the HDD has a jumper?
[09:42] <m_kiewitz> set it to LBA adressing mode instead
[09:42] <WooShell> no
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[09:42] <GitHub150> [scummvm] blorente opened pull request #807: MACVENTURE: [GSoC] Add MacVenture engine. (master...macventure-clean) https://git.io/v6gcR
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[09:42] <m_kiewitz> but the BIOS has an option for that?!
[09:42] <m_kiewitz> i think cylinder limit is 1024
[09:42] <m_kiewitz> so effectively 1023
[09:42] <WooShell> BIOS lets me choose CHS, LBA and "large".. the latter afaik is only used for novell
[09:43] <m_kiewitz> then select LBA
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[09:43] <m_kiewitz> but set the CHS values manually
[09:43] <blorente> Good morning
[09:43] <rootfather> hi blorente
[09:43] <blorente> well, noon :)
[09:43] <WooShell> ok, testing that variant now
[09:43] <blorente> hi rootfather :)
[09:45] <blorente> I just wanted to say that I opened the pull request for the GSoC project. I tried to do it as fast as I could, so that we can have as much time as possible before the deadline :) I'll be fixing any errors that are found this week, so please if you have a moment and could take a look at it it would be awesome
[09:48] <WooShell> m_kiewitz: LBA mode doesn't let me modify the geometry at all
[09:49] <m_kiewitz> on your other computer, okay. But now create a partition and put it into your retro computer and then check if there is a LBA option too
[09:49] <m_kiewitz> and if you can enter CHS values on that computer
[09:49] <WooShell> ?
[09:49] <WooShell> there is no "other" computer..
[09:50] <m_kiewitz> ?? i thought you had 2, one your retro computer and then your windows 98 computer
[09:50] <WooShell> naah
[09:50] <m_kiewitz> how do you boot up windows98 then?
[09:50] <WooShell> i don't. where did you get that from?
[09:51] Action: t0by gives blorente cheer
[09:51] <WooShell> i've got a win98 boot floppy.. for trying fdisk stuff.. that's all
[09:51] <m_kiewitz> well you said you created partitions using windows 98?
[09:51] <m_kiewitz> ahh a floppy only
[09:51] <m_kiewitz> well, try to create partitions, although i guess you could also try to boot up your DOS 6.22 floppies
[09:52] <m_kiewitz> DOS should see the HDD correctly now hopefully
[09:52] <WooShell> when i create partitions with the win98 disk booted, they are not recognized when i go back to dos6 again
[09:53] <m_kiewitz> did you try after setting LBA mode in BIOS?
[09:53] <WooShell> yeah
[09:53] <m_kiewitz> and dos6 fdisk recognizes what exactly?
[09:53] <WooShell> a 472mb drive
[09:54] <m_kiewitz> can you see the CHS values somewhere that are currently used for the HDD?
[09:54] <WooShell> bios autodetects the same values that are printed on the drive
[09:55] <m_kiewitz> the LBA ones?
[09:55] <WooShell> no, the CHS/"normal mode" ones
[09:55] <m_kiewitz> and that causes an overflow
[09:55] <m_kiewitz> but you set the HDD to LBA mode, correct?
[09:55] <m_kiewitz> why can't you enter the CHS values?
[09:55] <WooShell> in "normal" I can enter CHS values, but they are there already anyways
[09:56] <m_kiewitz> well you need those other values
[09:56] <m_kiewitz> cylinder 996, heads 255, sectors 63
[09:56] <WooShell> in "LBA" i can not enter any geometry
[09:56] <WooShell> and when I use the LBA geometry and enter it in CHS/normal mode, I get "primary hdd fail"
[09:57] <m_kiewitz> hmmm
[09:57] <blorente> wii, thanks t0by :)
[09:57] <m_kiewitz> it doesn't surprise me that the other values fail, as I said - those cause a cylinder overflow
[09:57] <m_kiewitz> so the 472 mb make sense
[09:58] <WooShell> what's overflowing there? it's less than an int..
[09:58] <m_kiewitz> cylinders are limited to 1024 in CHS commands
[09:58] <WooShell> ah
[09:58] <m_kiewitz> cylinders, heads and sectors are put inside one 16 bit value
[09:58] <m_kiewitz> so you really need the LBA values
[09:58] <m_kiewitz> and there is really no jumper on that drive?
[09:59] <m_kiewitz> the BIOS shouldn't detect it with those CHS values when it being in LBA mode
[09:59] <WooShell> no. it's a notebook drive. no jumpers besides master/slave
[10:00] <m_kiewitz> notebook drive inside a regular PC?
[10:00] <m_kiewitz> so you use a special cable to do that?
[10:00] <m_kiewitz> maybe look for a BIOS update or something
[10:01] <m_kiewitz> the auto-detection is clearly not working correctly
[10:01] <WooShell> nah, it's an embedded board. just a mini-44 to mini-44 pin cable.
[10:01] <m_kiewitz> and when using 16 heads, you are limited to that tiny bit of space
[10:01] <m_kiewitz> you could also try to download PC-DOS which was caldera DOS
[10:01] <m_kiewitz> i think it supports LBA access commands, which would mean that it could work
[10:02] <WooShell> hmmmmmm
[10:02] <m_kiewitz> well PC-DOS was free some ages ago no idea about the status atm
[10:02] <WooShell> weird.. on the drive it says "16938 cyl, 15 head, 63 sec", but the manual i just downloaded for that model says "15800 cyl, 16 head, 63 sec"..
[10:03] <m_kiewitz> ah it seems DR-DOS 7.03 is available for free too
[10:03] <m_kiewitz> http://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pc/caldera/DR-DOS.703/
[10:03] <m_kiewitz> you would really need 256 heads
[10:03] <m_kiewitz> to get the max out of that drive accessible via CHS commands
[10:04] <m_kiewitz> Caldera DOS is basically the "same" as MS-DOS, I think it uses less memory
[10:04] <m_kiewitz> i used it for ages on my old computers
[10:04] <m_kiewitz> either that or you try to get that HDD working with 256 heads
[10:05] <WooShell> gnarf. i've just looked through my hardware stash, and all other drives i have are 60gb+
[10:06] <WooShell> so going for a different hdd isn't going to work either
[10:06] <m_kiewitz> if they are detected as w/ heads 255, then that would worky
[10:06] <m_kiewitz> you would be limited to a few GBs, but it would still work
[10:06] <m_kiewitz> i think the limit is 8-something GBs
[10:07] <WooShell> i wouldn't mind losing a few gigs
[10:07] <m_kiewitz> or you could use Caldera-DOS too
[10:08] <m_kiewitz> ah yes, MS-DOS 7, which was actually the OS for Windows 9x, supports LBA, but anything below that didn't
[10:08] <WooShell> and of course, samsung doesn't have geometry info anywhere -.-
[10:09] <WooShell> i'll probably go for win98 if all else fails..
[10:09] <m_kiewitz> uh nooo :P
[10:09] <m_kiewitz> that's the devil
[10:09] <bgK> (or freedos?)
[10:09] <WooShell> hm. can win311 run on a win98 booted hdd? ;)
[10:11] <WooShell> hm. on second thought.. i've got a 512mb ide flash module around somewhere.. i could get that box an SSD ;)
[10:12] <m_kiewitz> oh and what I said was wrong. Actually CHS values are put inside a 24 bit value, sectors may be 63 at max, heads may be 255 at max any cylinders may be 1023 at max
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[10:16] <WooShell> ok. the geometry is fux0red.
[10:16] <WooShell> the 40GB samsung drive is shown in fdisk as 8gb drive.. which is fine for me
[10:17] <t0by> Meanwhile, somebody in 1998 is having a seizure.
[10:17] <WooShell> lol
[10:20] <t0by> I'm not even sure they had 20G drives in '98.
[10:21] <t0by> I think 2-digit drives started popping up later than that
[10:36] <_sev|work_> Begasus: it looks for sdl2-config
[10:36] <_sev|work_> Begasus: if you have it named differently, or under special path, please tell me
[10:36] <Begasus> sec let me see ...
[10:37] <Begasus> it's called sdl2-config yes
[10:37] <_sev|work_> when you run ./configure without parameters
[10:38] <_sev|work_> it should tell you the SDL version it detected
[10:38] <_sev|work_> if it is 2.0.x, then you're fine
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[10:39] <Begasus> we normaly provide the libs it needs in the 'recipes' we use to build it, so we can provide for instance 'lib:libsdl" or 'lib:libsdl2', the are bootstrapped uppon build time (so configure should pick the one provided in the recipe
[10:40] <Begasus> but as at the moment sdl2 is still not fully functioning it would be nice to have it fallback on sdl1.2
[10:41] <Begasus> it probably would build, as the needed libs are there (ported smpeg2 the other week also for Haiku), but the default one is using GL (SDL2) so I would probably have to rebuild without GL support (for the libs)
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[10:44] <_sev|work> Begasus: as i mentioned, sdl1 is a fallback
[10:44] <_sev|work> it just starts looking from libsdl2, then libsdl1
[10:45] <_sev|work> ...if I have it implemented correctly
[10:45] <Begasus> ok, will check out if the pr is accepted with a branch download :)
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[11:06] <t0by> Um
[11:06] <t0by> Disney now own Grim Fandango
[11:06] <t0by> and... do this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coco_%282017_film%29
[11:06] Action: t0by scratches head
[11:07] <t0by> People. You are sitting on a treasure there.
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[11:23] <_sev|work> blorente: did you notice that your PR broke on g++?
[11:23] <rootfather> t0by: they also own the IP for Monkey Island and do nothing about it
[11:24] <t0by> rootfather, well, they already did a bunch of movie starring Johnny Depp as a very drunk Guybrush Threepwood :P
[11:24] <rootfather> hrhr
[11:25] <m_kiewitz> rootfather: if Disney was smart, they would at least offer it to the original creators/designers
[11:25] <t0by> rootfather, then again Grim, with its colorful imagery, film noir storyline, the suspense and whatnot basically screams for being adapted into a movie in a way that MI with its silly jokes probably doesn't, IMHO.
[11:25] <m_kiewitz> or well they could do a retro collection
[11:25] <rootfather> m_kiewitz: Ron Gilbert offered to buy it from them
[11:25] <m_kiewitz> And hell, they could finally release the Star Wars collection for Wii
[11:25] <t0by> m_kiewitz, I hear the "if they were smart they would give it to the original creators" thing a lot, in general. I am beginning to suspect there is a good reason if they don't do that in the entertainment industry
[11:26] <m_kiewitz> yesterday I found out that it was actually finished, but because of the Factor 5 studio closure scam, they were scared of bad PR, so they shelf-ed it
[11:27] <m_kiewitz> well I'm absolutely positive that Disney will release the untouched Star Wars movies on Blu-ray
[11:27] <m_kiewitz> so that's at least one plus
[11:27] <rootfather> m_kiewitz: speaking of the retro collection, you can't even buy the original monkey island games from steam or gog... I don't get why, they could simply bundle MI 1-3 with ScummVM and MI4 with Residual
[11:27] <m_kiewitz> and i mean factor 5 stuff scared, that was LucasArts
[11:28] <m_kiewitz> monkey island makes sense, they have their special editions
[11:28] <blorente> _sev|work: Yeah, it's the fact that I forgot to make some initializers as static const
[11:28] <blorente> I'm looking into that, but it seems non-trivial, I have to learn that part of C++
[11:29] <m_kiewitz> sam'n max is afaik a rights issue, they even removed sam'n max from the MI Special Editions
[11:29] <_sev|work> blorente: great. Also, please keep in mind that we have a zero warnings policy. E.g. preferably your code should generate no warnings at all on all platforms
[11:29] <_sev|work> sometimes it is not possible, sometimes it is deliberate, though
[11:29] <m_kiewitz> Day of the tentacle got its special edition now as well
[11:30] <m_kiewitz> maybe Indy 4 will get the same treatment
[11:30] <rootfather> the DOTT special edition is way bettern then the MI ones imho
[11:30] <rootfather> way closer to the original
[11:31] <blorente> _sev|work: last commit addresses most of the warnings (I think), except those that break the build, which are all due to the lack of static const initializers
[11:36] <_sev|work> blorente: once you push, it will be autopicked up and compiled by Travis
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[11:55] <_sev|work> blorente: still not there :)
[11:56] <rootfather> _sev|work how easy is it to "upgrade" the travis-ci VMs from precise to trusty?
[11:56] <rootfather> because travis-ci can't build SDL2 due to the 12.04 environment they use
[11:56] <blorente> _sev|work: I know where it breaks, I'm preparing the fix, which is turning out to be more difficult than expected
[11:56] <rootfather> is it just a matter of "dist": "trusty" instead of "dist": "precise" in the yaml?
[11:57] <_sev|work> rootfather: I have no idea
[11:57] <_sev|work> rootfather: need to read the docs
[11:57] <_sev|work> blorente: that's normal
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[12:39] <GitHub71> [scummvm] rootfather pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6gKh
[12:39] <GitHub71> scummvm/master b95ce5c Lothar Serra Mari: NEWS: Mention snap support in Linux
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[14:08] <_sev|work> rootfather: got it fixed
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[14:15] <rootfather> _sev|work: cool
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[16:12] <snover> wow, torin has some assets that are 1263x630
[16:12] <L0ngcat> kool
[16:12] <L0ngcat> scrooling backgrounds?
[16:13] <L0ngcat> *scrolling
[16:15] <snover> they do some zoom effect
[16:19] <snover> its very cinematic, and also something is terribly wrong with it in scummvm
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[17:09] <GitHub175> scummvm/master ad68471 Martin Kiewitz: SCI: Improve "force hires graphics"-option reading code...
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[17:34] <GitHub46> [scummvm] sev- pushed 6 new commits to master: https://git.io/v62cR
[17:34] <GitHub46> scummvm/master da99a44 Eugene Sandulenko: FULLPIPE: Remove copy/paste leftover
[17:34] <GitHub46> scummvm/master 56e180b Eugene Sandulenko: DIRECTOR: Register debug channels
[17:34] <GitHub46> scummvm/master d15a895 Eugene Sandulenko: DIRECTOR: Lingo: Switch compilation debug to a channel
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[17:38] <t0by> Yes, more director.
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[17:55] <m_kiewitz> for which games is it?
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[17:59] <GitHub126> [scummvm] m-kiewitz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v628L
[17:59] <GitHub126> scummvm/master ece303d Martin Kiewitz: SCI: Move GUI-options to sci.h
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[18:01] <omer_mor> Plagiarism at its best: http://wall-flowers.bandcamp.com/track/over
[18:01] <omer_mor> This guy simply ripped off Sierra in this track
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[18:21] <omer_mor> Same goes for another track of his: http://wall-flowers.bandcamp.com/track/mystery-cove
[18:22] <omer_mor> Both tracks are rip offs from Codename: Iceman
[18:22] <omer_mor> I posted on his facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/wall.flowers.chillwave/posts/10153964846705889
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[18:28] <m_kiewitz> omer_mor: for me the play button doesn't work
[18:29] <omer_mor> m_kiewitz: https://youtu.be/dw5G5hFIsRc
[18:29] <m_kiewitz> wow
[18:29] <m_kiewitz> I mean wow
[18:30] <m_kiewitz> and that other track? i can't find it on youtube
[18:30] <m_kiewitz> this one is nice
[18:30] <m_kiewitz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpaPHTCgUGQ
[18:31] <m_kiewitz> but i guess copied from somewhere else
[18:31] <omer_mor> https://youtu.be/dw5G5hFIsRc?t=784
[18:31] <m_kiewitz> has a Daft Punk vibe
[18:31] <m_kiewitz> WOW
[18:33] <omer_mor> (for those too lazy to look in my facebook post) the corresponding tracks from Codename: Iceman are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4TFQ1cwpgw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itl3NuS1OHg and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84sbJ3lSvik
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[18:44] <GitHub93> scummvm/master 035aa9a Martin Kiewitz: SCI: Add comments about GK1 on Mac being hi-res only
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[20:01] <wjp> Strangerke: did you see the clang warning that one of the GNAP globals is causing a global constructor?
[20:01] <wjp> (_dejaVuSans9ptCharDescriptors)
[20:02] <wjp> (or anyone else who would like to take a look)
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[20:46] <Strangerke> wjp: Hum... Maybe I missed it
[20:47] <Strangerke> is it in buildbot? or in a bug report?
[20:48] <wjp> currently the easiest place to see it is in a travis report I think
[20:48] <wjp> but presumably a nightly buildbot build will also show it
[20:48] <wjp> but there's not much more in the warning than it pointing at _dejaVuSans9ptCharDescriptors
[20:49] <Strangerke> hum, ok. I'll have a look :)
[20:49] <m_kiewitz> wjp: I think there is some issue inside the macamiga SCI driver, AppVerifier stops it right after the playNotes code for me, but strangely eriktorbjorn couldn't reproduce it with valgrind
[20:50] <m_kiewitz> still there were 2 valgrind issues. One is MusicCompare
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[20:50] <Strangerke_> it's weird it's not complaining about _dejaVuSans9ptCharBitmaps
[20:51] <wjp> why? Those are just bytes
[20:53] <wjp> m_kiewitz: inside the what?
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[20:54] <m_kiewitz> wjp: mac/amiga music driver
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[20:58] <wjp> I'm about to leave, but for later: how do I reproduce?
[21:06] <t0by> well, firstly, you need a mate.
[21:06] <t0by> that's usually the problematic part.
[21:07] <wjp> useful to know, thanks
[21:09] <m_kiewitz> lol
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[21:43] <waltervn> evening
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[23:09] <GitHub142> scummvm/master e54dc36 Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Implemented CParrotSuccUBus class
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