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[07:02] <maxyodedara5> i have a query, The game packaging idea in GSoC list what does it mean
[07:03] <maxyodedara5> do we have to add the functionality to just download the game for platform specifics or just prepare a folder of screenshots and bio of games
[07:05] <maxyodedara5> im assuming the idea means when we press the "add game" button the gui should come up with list of the games with their info
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[08:40] <Tkachov> maxyodedara5: as a formet gsocer I'd say it's not a 3-month GSoC project, but more like small one week PR
[08:41] <Tkachov> not sure why someone would need descriptions of the games if there is no way to download them, but most of the supported games are not available for free legally
[08:43] <Tkachov> and IIRC there was some prototype system last year allowing to see all ScummVM-supported games and whether they run smoothly in the latest version
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[10:04] <_sev> maxyodedara5: hey
[10:05] <_sev> maxyodedara5: this is for developing a tool which would let us package games for many platforms. E.g. in a bundle of ScummVM and game data
[10:05] <_sev> maxyodedara5: so, a game could be published on those markets
[10:15] <maxyodedara5> and is there any reference book i can get for GUI or Will I have to make do from the documentation itself
[10:20] <Joefish> hi _sev. did you get my mail concerning the mission supernova sorce?
[10:21] <_sev> Joefish: ah, I see it now
[10:21] <_sev> maxyodedara5: there is no GUI. How I envision it, it should be some kind of an XML-based format, and then several formats to output
[10:21] <_sev> maxyodedara5: it must be done easily expandable.
[10:22] <_sev> maxyodedara5: then, there must be Makefile goals for packing it, similar to how we pack now the release packages
[10:22] <_sev> Joefish: reading
[10:23] <_sev> Joefish: I will provide partial source, and generic stats
[10:23] <maxyodedara5> i didnt understand the last thing about makefile goals and release packages
[10:23] <Joefish> _sev: alright. thanks :)
[10:24] <maxyodedara5> xml based format i understood a bit
[10:24] <_sev> Joefish: e.g.
[10:24] <_sev> SLOC Directory SLOC-by-Language (Sorted)
[10:24] <_sev> 11638 ms2 ansic=11638
[10:24] <_sev> 10721 msn ansic=10721
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[10:25] <_sev> maxyodedara5: like this: https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/blob/master/ports.mk#L132
[10:26] <_sev> maxyodedara5: or this: https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/blob/master/ports.mk#L386
[10:29] <maxyodedara5> _sev: and if i were to start making a GUI How would I start doing so (Is there a handbook or something which has all the details ?)
[10:29] <_sev> maxyodedara5: or this: https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/blob/master/dists/gcw0/opk_make.sh
[10:30] <_sev> maxyodedara5: which GUI?
[10:31] <maxyodedara5> _sev: http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/GUI_Themes
[10:32] <_sev> maxyodedara5: for what purpose? I do not understand. Are you still talking about the packaging system?
[10:32] <maxyodedara5> i was working on my proposal right now and had no idea where to start
[10:32] <maxyodedara5> no
[10:32] <maxyodedara5> not about packaging system
[10:33] <_sev> maxyodedara5: okay, please tell me more. Which GUI task specifically?
[10:33] <maxyodedara5> so in the idea list there is a task to improve the gui
[10:33] <maxyodedara5> i thought why not add the older themes to the gui
[10:34] <maxyodedara5> there were 4 themes in all and we are using the javacatVM theme
[10:34] <_sev> maxyodedara5: http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/GUI_Themes/Specs
[10:36] <maxyodedara5> _sev: thanks this explains a lot
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[11:00] <WooShell> good meowning =^.^=
[11:04] <Joefish> morning :)
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[11:20] <Joefish> _sev: sorry to be annoying but will you add a link to the partial source on the idea list or somewhere else?
[11:20] <_sev> no
[11:20] <_sev> I will send it individually
[11:20] <Joefish> ah okay. thanks
[11:21] <_sev> Joefish: do you speak any German?
[11:22] <_sev> ah, it looks like you actually from Germany :)
[11:33] <Joefish> yea, another reason I picked this project as it comes quite handy :)
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[13:11] <Joefish> got your mail _sev. To be honest the gsoc description should state that knowing 'german' is more than recommended as function/variable names are all in german. Also pre-ANSIC and dos asm.. can't wait getting started :D
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[13:28] <wanwan> out of curiosity, how old that code is? mid-80s? :)
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[13:35] <Joefish> it says 1994 in the title screen but I can imagine with the popularity of K&R and not so up to date compiler you would see code like that more often than you think
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[13:44] <logix> Joefish: that sounds as if translating variable and function names via a dictionary should be sufficient
[13:44] <logix> Joefish: longer comments, full sentences, that kind of documentation is a different thing
[13:46] <logix> I understand what you mean, I admit that I'm annoyed if I see code with more than the occasional non-english variable/function names - but if that's really all, then I think I'd manage no matter in which they are (as long as there are online translaters where I can paste them and get a somewhat meaningful translation)
[13:46] <logix> but, granted, it's harder to get a quick idea of the important functions in the code
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[13:52] <Joefish> nah you're right. After a while you will see certain words over and over and probably recognize them without even looking them up anymore. I could imagine abbreviations being a problem but once you understand what they do the original meaning is not that important I guess. It's just personally for me it's quite hard reading code in a different language like chinese, swedish or russian. Maybe that's just me
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[14:27] <criezy> Joefish: It's not just you. I have to deal regularly with 80's fortran code where all variables have names like A, B, C, D or E. Not only does it make it more difficult to know what that variable is when you first encounter it, but it also make it more difficult to remember what it is when you see it again (and having to backtrack to check what the variable is used for).
[14:27] <criezy> And I can imagine that code in chinese, swedish or russian would do the same to me.
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[14:40] <t0by> I have trouble reading code with variable names in my native language.
[14:41] <t0by> "while (prosegui) do if (condizione) then operazione1 else operazione2" confuses me because of the mixture of languages.
[14:47] <Joefish> know how you feel. just stick to english and consistent code style so my eyes don't start to bleed damnit. but all that doesn't help when as in criezy's case the description doesn't reflect its purpose at all
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[14:52] <Daniel> Hello everybody
[14:52] Nick change: Daniel -> Guest79466
[14:53] <Joefish> hey Guest79466
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[14:55] <criezy> Hi Daniel / Guest79466
[14:56] <Pala> Hello, I just changed from Daniel
[14:56] <Pala> I have a question about the Mortville Manor
[14:56] <criezy> And what is your question?
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[14:58] <Pala> There are some TTS system based on Java, and because of that JRE is required. So is it a valid option to stick with a Java TTS or native only ?
[14:59] <criezy> Java doesn't seem like a good fit, except maybe on Android.
[15:01] <Pala> Yeah thought so. Then I think that Qt Speech would be the best. It wraps the 3 best platform dependent APIs, SAPI on Win, NNSpeechSynthesizer on OSS abd Speech Dispatcher on Linux
[15:01] <Pala> What do you think ?
[15:02] <Pala> I haven't found any other universal solution.
[15:03] <Pala> Most of them either lacks German or French, or doesn't support every platfrom.
[15:04] <criezy> Qt is quite a big dependency. If we were already using it on the backend side this would be good fit.
[15:04] <criezy> But we are not using it yet, and pulling a dependency to Qt only for its TTS API does seem a bit extreme to me.
[15:04] <Pala> Then the APIs it wraps could be used I think.
[15:04] <criezy> Yes
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[15:06] <Pala> Okay, thank you. Should I start with the code ?
[15:06] <Pala> Or what would be the next step ?
[15:07] <criezy> As part of your GSoC application you are expected to provide a pull request. This could for example be to fix a bug from our bug tracker.
[15:07] <criezy> https://bugs.scummvm.org/report/9
[15:07] <criezy> We can help with finding a suitable small task.
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[15:08] <Pala> Okay, that would be great.
[15:08] <criezy> That will show us that you are up to speed with compiling ScummVM, navigating through the code, modifying it and using git.
[15:08] <criezy> All skills that you will need for the GSoC proper.
[15:09] <criezy> I am reading through the bugs right now to see what would be suitable.
[15:10] <Pala> I see a Mortville bug, that the French version is not detected.
[15:10] <criezy> Do you already have the ScummVM source code and have you compiled it?
[15:10] <Pala> No not yet but I can do it today a bit later.
[15:13] <criezy> That Mortville bug is a bit tracky because we don't actually have the version of the game that is causing problem.
[15:13] <Pala> Oh, I see.
[15:13] <criezy> The detection was already added, but we expect tht more changes need to be made, although we don't know which since we cannot test.
[15:15] <criezy> What OS are you developing on?
[15:15] <Pala> I am on Windows
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[15:18] <GitHub140> [scummvm] bgK pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vy5zz
[15:18] <GitHub140> scummvm/master 213e730 Bastien Bouclet: MOHAWK: Add detection for Myst v1.0 English...
[15:18] <GitHub140> scummvm/master 060caeb Bastien Bouclet: MOHAWK: In Myst v1.0 English the take page opcode takes no arguments...
[15:18] <GitHub140> scummvm/master b7b06e8 Bastien Bouclet: MOHAWK: Allow the mouse cursor to move while drawing in a tight loop
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[15:19] <Pala> I see you have instructions for compiling under VS so I think I will stick with that.
[15:20] <logix> criezy: variable names like A, B, C, D, E are a different issue - but with non-english variable names you can just translate, search and replace the first time you encounter a new one
[15:20] <logix> with A, B, ... you first have to find out the meaning yourself
[15:20] <logix> so yeah, that's harder
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[15:23] <criezy> Also one of the issue with A, B, C, D is that the same name is used in different places for completly different purposes. So a search and replace has to be in the current scope only.
[15:24] <criezy> Pala, maybe that one https://bugs.scummvm.org/ticket/9701
[15:24] <criezy> The main issue is to decide what to do (there are suggestions in the bug report). The coding itself should be relatively easy.
[15:25] <t0by> Pala: hi and welcome!
[15:25] <criezy> But you can browse the bug tracker and see what tickles your interest.
[15:28] <Pala> This seems a perfect task to start with thank you!
[15:29] <Pala> I am gonna work on this and make a pull request when I am done.
[15:29] <Pala> Thanks for the help and have a nice day everybody!
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[16:04] <logix> criezy: yes, very true of course - and yeah, that might be a challenge depending on the length and structure of the code and of the editor you're using
[16:04] <logix> I honestly don't know if there are editors that can only search/replace in the current scope, I just assume they exist and I'm ignorant of them :)
[16:05] <logix> rather "search/replace in the local scope only" :P
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[18:05] <GitHub136> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy5ie
[18:05] <GitHub136> scummvm/master 6e33c2d Eugene Sandulenko: DIRECTOR: Additional debug output for event processing
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[18:15] <t0by> logix, I think there is some emacs-fu for that
[18:17] <Lightkey> he was talking about editors though
[18:17] <Lightkey> SCNR
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[20:05] <GitHub63> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vy5yw
[20:05] <GitHub63> scummvm/master 24f67bb Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Finished CStarControlSub7 class
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[20:11] <GitHub129> scummvm/master 2e91d8c Martin Kiewitz: SCI: Add script patch for Laura Bow 2 to fix museum party room (350)...
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[20:18] <wjp> hurray :-)
[20:23] <m_kiewitz> phew, that took 3 or 4 hours omg
[20:24] <dreammaster> I feel your pain, and congrats for completing it. :)
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[21:31] <GitHub127> scummvm/master 59cd3cf Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Implementing CStarControlSub8 class
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[22:06] <GitHub10> scummvm/master 6428e41 Martin Kiewitz: NEWS: added SCI Laura Bow 2 script bug
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