ScummVM IRC Log - 21 Apr 2024

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[02:20] <grogbot> [discord] <thunderforge8> See also: https://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php?title=Dune
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[07:34] <Scummette> [scummvm] rparnas opened pull request #5753: MTROPOLIS: Fix Obsidian Widescreen Hacks (master...obsidian-widescreen) https://is.gd/2biSGl
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[07:57] <Scummette> [scummvm] scemino pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/rceTww
[07:57] <Scummette> scummvm/master 7a9946c scemino: TWP: Fix dialog shutup in dialog (bug #15070)
[07:57] <Scummette> scummvm/master fa0dc61 scemino: TWP: Fix incorrect text color during dialog
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[09:07] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> @scemino do you own Thimbleweed Park on Steam?
[09:21] <grogbot> [discord] <scemino> No why?
[09:24] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr closed pull request #5751: MADE: TeraDrive Manhole (master...made_teradrive_manhole) https://is.gd/Z61zIg
[09:24] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/auv6yE
[09:24] <Scummette> scummvm/master 7c1cfb3 mistydemeo: MADE: TeraDrive Manhole
[09:39] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> There's 18 different TWP builds that you can download from Steam using tools like DepotDownloader
[09:48] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> oh, I had no idea you could get the historical depots
[09:56] <grogbot> [discord] <scemino> Nice! you can give me the hashes and info, and I will add them.
[10:08] <grogbot> [discord] <scemino> Do you know if there is this kind of tools for GOG and Epic?
[10:08] <grogbot> [discord] <scemino> For GOG I've been able to downgrade my version, but I'm not sure it covers al versions.
[10:08] <grogbot> [discord] <scemino> Do you know if there is this kind of tools for GOG and Epic?
[10:08] <grogbot> [discord] <scemino> For GOG I've been able to downgrade my version, but I'm not sure it covers all versions. (edited)
[10:09] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> No idea about Epic and I can see that GoG only has 5 builds
[10:09] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> https://www.gogdb.org/product/1325604411#builds
[10:09] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> I'll look at picking up the game on Steam next time it's on sale. Sadly I bought the game on GOG
[10:13] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> If you know the manifest ID of the build you want and it's on a branch you have access to (in this case they're all on the public branch so it's fine), you can run DepotDownloader like `depotdownloader.exe -username username -remember-password -app app_id -depot depot_id -manifest manifest_id` (replacing username, app_id, depot_id and manifest_id)
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[11:18] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/UNjttV
[11:19] <Scummette> scummvm/master 32167c8 bluegr: MADS: Add stubs for Once Upon a Forest
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[11:36] <Scummette> [scummvm] tag2015 pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/bmEOFp
[11:36] <Scummette> scummvm/master fe14912 tag2015: AGS: Add/update detection for commercial games
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[11:58] <Scummette> [scummvm] scemino pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/LqCZrW
[11:58] <Scummette> scummvm/master 30fc9cb scemino: TWP: Fix invalid original savegame
[11:58] <Scummette> scummvm/master a259e6e scemino: TWP: Implement missing sayLineAt function
[12:26] <Scummette> [scummvm] lephilousophe opened pull request #5754: ANDROID: Remove deprecation warnings (master...android-deprecated) https://is.gd/oPO2ae
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[14:40] <grogbot> [discord] <supsuper> i have the game on Steam if there's anything you need
[14:44] <Scummette> [scummvm] BJNFNE opened pull request #5755: DIRECTOR: add version number for cklasse entry (master...director-version-numbers) https://is.gd/HL0cCa
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[15:13] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> <https://github.com/SteamRE/DepotDownloader/releases> + the command I gave above + the manifest IDs from <https://steamdb.info/depot/569861/manifests/>
[15:14] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Note that it'll download them all to the same folder, so it's a matter of "download game, attempt to add to ScummVM nightly, note the hash and manifest, delete install"
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[19:48] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> can someone help me
[19:53] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Ask, don't ask to ask...
[19:54] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> i.e. if you actually say what you need help with, someone might...
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[20:11] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> mb i need help with the scummvm trying to get backyard basebakk
[20:11] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> baseball*
[20:11] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> mb i need help with the scummvm trying to get backyard baseball
[20:12] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Okaay... In what sense?
[20:12] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> scummvm doesnt launch
[20:13] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Okay... What version of ScummVM? What Operating System? Did you download an official release or is this a daily build?
[20:14] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> i downloaded the recent version 2.8.1
[20:15] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> i downloaded scummvm like it said then i downloaded the backyard baseball files and when i go open scummvm it launches with a black screen todays date where the it would usually say the application name
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[20:15] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> n then closes
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[20:15] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Hmm. What Operating System?
[20:16] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> what you mean by operating system
[20:16] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> this my first time trying sum like this
[20:16] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> SIGH. Windows, MacOS, Linux
[20:16] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> Windows
[20:16] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> If Windows ... which version? XP, 7, 8 ,10, 11 ?
[20:17] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> 10
[20:18] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> it does this then closes
[20:18] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Hmm. Did you use the installer or the zip file?
[20:18] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> You see the launcher? https://docs.scummvm.org/en/latest/use_scummvm/the_launcher.html
[20:19] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> no i dont see the launcher once during the install
[20:19] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> and i think i used the zip file if that means winrar
[20:20] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> SIGH. No it doesn't.
[20:20] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> sorry
[20:20] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Please read the relevant documentation: https://docs.scummvm.org/en/latest/use_scummvm/install_computer.html
[20:20] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> is it possible we can hop in a vc n you just show me if ur not busy
[20:20] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Nope.
[20:21] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> I would highly suggest uninstalling ScummVM if you used the installer... and doing a clean resinstall
[20:21] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> i did multiple times
[20:22] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> look i double clikc scummvm to launch
[20:22] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> it shows this
[20:22] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1231701540398698526/image.png?ex=6637ea73&is=66257573&hm=506e47142ed3a38bebee54853af328cb41e4cd90f5f1f2b9d7f4667c7b2ff66e&
[20:22] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> and closes
[20:22] <grogbot> [discord] <codengine_de> Do you open it from the zip Archive directly?
[20:22] <grogbot> [discord] <codengine_de> If yes, try to extract it first
[20:22] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> i did extract it
[20:22] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> i created a seperate folder
[20:23] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> extracted the files
[20:23] <grogbot> [discord] <mexicanmiles> and yea
[20:23] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> I would highly suggest removing your current config file and running from clean ... https://docs.scummvm.org/en/latest/advanced_topics/configuration_file.html
[20:24] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Also, read https://docs.scummvm.org/en/latest/help/faq.html#scummvm-crashes-but-the-console-window-disappears-too-quickly-to-see-the-error-message
[20:25] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Also, since you meantioned downloading game files... Read https://docs.scummvm.org/en/latest/help/faq.html#can-i-run-my-pirated-abandonware-warez-unauthorized-copies-of-a-game
[20:26] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Apart from the legal aspects, it is likely you have broken / damaged game data with possible added malware, so you should consider getting a second hand copy.
[20:32] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/wZJlYN
[20:32] <Scummette> scummvm/master 4b51ee1 sev-: GUI: Remplace [?] with "Help"
[20:32] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/dHwCr8
[20:32] <Scummette> scummvm/master e1d9111 : I18N: Update translations templates
[20:33] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/sQWY1L
[20:33] <Scummette> scummvm/master 2c33cfb sev-: GRAPHICS: MACGUI: Hid too noisy warning
[20:34] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/kXXOOY
[20:34] <Scummette> scummvm/master a4c7079 : I18N: Update translation files
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[20:44] <grogbot> [discord] <codengine_de> @_digitall_ hm are you sure? Regardless of "legal" issues, it looks like it doesnt even launch to the main screen
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[20:57] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Yes, hence why I indicated trying removal of the config file to get a clean startup in case it has been corrupted, checking the logs and command line start which is covered by the second link ... without a clean message as to why that is happening, it is a complete "WORKS FOR ME" type bug
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[21:19] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> This looks like OpenGL driver issue to me
[21:19] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> it is a second time I hear about it
[21:20] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> hmmm. the user left the server
[21:26] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Yep about what I expected. And yes, likely a graphics or audio driver issue... which is hard to pin down unless user is technically capable.
[21:28] <grogbot> [discord] <codengine_de> I guess either the user was a snowflake or the game was pirated 🤷
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[21:45] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> I try not to use that term... but I think they were either very young or not very good with computers beyond the basics and yes, 90% sure they had a downloaded dodgy copy.
[21:46] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> The one saving grace of P & C adventure games is that the one thing you need to play is patience and logic ... which is what you need for debugging so most of our users are pretty good.
[21:52] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> @_digitall_ unfortunately, this game is not on a digital sale
[21:52] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> it was like 102% pirated
[21:59] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Unfortunately. I wish the Backyard games were available somewhere... apart from EBay and similar 😐 They are hard to find
[22:02] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> yes, and the IP owners are just don't care it seems
[22:02] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> yes, and the IP owners just don't care it seems (edited)
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[22:05] <grogbot> [discord] <retrotude> If they hadn't been sold off separately from the Junior Adventures we'd probably at least have the original Baseball and Football digitally by now. Anything past that and they would have to go to the trouble of negotiating for the likeness of each and every pro player in the games and that's going to be difficult considering most of them now are either retired or dead
[22:06] <grogbot> [discord] <retrotude> If they hadn't been sold off separately from the Junior Adventures we'd probably at least have the original Baseball and Soccer digitally by now. Anything past that and they would have to go to the trouble of negotiating for the likeness of each and every pro player in the games and that's going to be difficult considering most of them now are either retired or dead (edited)
[22:06] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> they were
[22:06] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> the HE IP went into three buckets
[22:06] <grogbot> [discord] <retrotude> Yep
[22:07] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> Junor Adventures, Backyard Sports and Moonbase Commander went separately
[22:07] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> (1) Junor Adventures, (2) Backyard Sports and (3) Moonbase Commander went separately (edited)
[22:07] <grogbot> [discord] <retrotude> Ngl I'm still pretty miffed that they sold Battlezone off separately from the rest of the Atari arcade classics
[22:08] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> you know how it happens
[22:09] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> somebody apparently came first and told "we want Battlezone"
[22:09] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> and later "the rest" was sold in one lot
[22:11] <grogbot> [discord] <retrotude> My understanding was that it was separate from the beginning solely because of the cult hit reboot in the 90s but I'm not the one who liquidated Atari's assets so I'm not really familiar with how that works
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