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[10:42] te_lanus (~te_lanus@154.66.195.97) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:03] mh, on msys2/Windows, the "make win32dist" and "win32setup" targets are broken due to wrong path for SDL-README.txt and SDL.dll [11:13] rootfather, I think that whole thing is a bit misguided [11:14] it's going to be wrong for every system except for the authors' [11:14] sure as hell won't work for a cross build [11:18] ChrisKeys (ChrisKeys@ip5b4149f2.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) left irc: [11:20] that's probably the case at some level for most of these platform-specific make targets [11:20] some of them become more generic once more people get involved with a platform [11:29] Henke37 (~Henrik@81-227-16-59-no133.bredband.skanova.com) joined #scummvm. [11:38] TMM yeah, like the hardcoded c:\scummvm path, which will break on cross-compiling [11:38] wjp, but I think the windows platform [11:39] *should* be quite generic :P [11:39] I'm thinking of a way to fix this [11:39] rootfather: you'd think so... [11:39] I'm thinking of using the compiler information gathered by ./configure [11:39] but it seems quite fragmented, and not with many people on the configure/make side [11:39] but in the end I care much more about being able to create releases on buildbot than to be able to do releases from a windows box [11:40] I really won't mind breaking native windows-on-windows builds, or making THAT the hacky one [11:43] (for make win32dist I mean, not building in general, of course) [11:43] I was just about to complain about not being able to build on my msys2-environment in the future :P [11:43] no, that would be stupid [11:43] I really mean the releases [11:44] I mean, it would be stupid if I did that, not you being stupid for thinking that's what I meantr [11:44] because it did seem that way :P [11:49] hehe [11:49] oh, I just noticed the @ in front of your handle [11:49] so I can thank you for joining the team? [12:08] yeah, _sev wore me down, I'm now win32 maintainer [12:09] :) [12:15] very cool [12:16] probably going to switch away from the .exe installers to msi files, that should also allow winsparkle to upgrade scummvm without going through the installer [12:16] and they are even smaller, and easier to build cross-platform [12:17] also, innosetup cannot be build itself with free software, it requires delphi and I don't like the idea of shipping software to other people that I can't even build myself, and that they probably can't rebuild either [12:19] I'm not familiar with various installers myself, but your arguments make sense [12:20] wjp, 'msi' is the 'microsoft installer' it's basically a rudimentary package manager that ships with windows [12:20] it actually works pretty well [12:22] sure, I meant, I know what msi is, just not how to build them :-) [12:25] .msi would be better in my opinion [12:33] btw, what's the purpose of the migration.txt file? [12:41] there's a migration.bat file which will move all scummvm save files from c:/program files/scummvm to the users' homedir [12:41] that got changed somewhere around 1.5 times apparently [12:42] how it works is that it'll move all files NOT mentioned in migration.txt [12:46] there are a variety of tools available to construct msi files, a couple are free software [12:46] I'll figure out which one's easiest to sue [12:47] ideally we generate the installer filelist from the build process somehow [12:47] but I'm not too married to that idea :) [13:00] niska (~niska@68.ip-149-56-14.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:04] bgK (~bgk@2001:41d0:2:599c::2a60:8434) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:09] bgK (~bgk@2001:41d0:2:599c::2a60:8434) joined #scummvm. [13:09] #scummvm: mode change '+o bgK' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [13:19] waltervn (~waltervn@82-171-142-149.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:21] waltervn (~waltervn@82-171-142-149.ip.telfort.nl) joined #scummvm. [13:21] #scummvm: mode change '+o waltervn' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [13:23] niska (~niska@68.ip-149-56-14.net) joined #scummvm. [13:24] Littleboy (~littleboy@c-174-62-174-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #scummvm. [13:24] #scummvm: mode change '+o Littleboy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [13:40] TMM would be great if one time the ScummVM org gets a certificate to sign the .exe and the setup :D [13:40] no more uac/smartscreen bullshit [13:43] yeah [13:51] but around 240$ a year [13:52] and I don't know if the certificates are going to become invalid after you stop renewing the certificates [13:54] Deledrius (~Deledrius@2602:100:4476:8bd6:659a:84e5:bdcf:324e) joined #scummvm. [13:56] WinterGrascph (~WinterGra@winter.sch.bme.hu) joined #scummvm. 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[15:29] ThirdChoice (~User@ip138.net138.n37.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:32] h00ligan (~User@ip138.net138.n37.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:41] rootfather, you can get them for way less [15:41] rootfather, 70 euros/year is already possible [15:42] h00ligan (~User@ip138.net138.n37.ru) joined #scummvm. [15:42] #scummvm: mode change '+o h00ligan' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [15:44] wow, that's a more reasonable price point [15:44] why is there no LetsEncrypt for Authenticode... [15:44] yeah, we can maybe do that, but I'll have to discuss with _sev [15:45] h00ligan (~User@ip138.net138.n37.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:45] I don't think an automated signature service for binaries would be a very good idea [15:45] you can automatically validate domain control, but how can you automatically validate that someone is who they say they are? [15:45] ajax16384 (~User@ip138.net138.n37.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:45] you'd just get malware signed left and right [15:46] [ ] i pinky swear i am who i say i am [15:46] the pinky swear is impervious to fraud [15:47] :D [15:50] TMM (~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [15:51] the whole design of it is completely broken, especially for domains + HTTPS. Your browser trusts how many companies? including all sorts of fishy ones and they can sign whatever they want to and then browser will go "everything's fine, fully secured" [15:53] TMM: in case you read this - you can't can't autmatically validate domain control. I mean this can be hacked regardless. I'm pretty sure that I read about some major company - possibly Microsoft - allowed a user to get admin@ or webmaster@ address on some e-mail domain [15:54] and that way some guy managed to get a valid certificate for a very large e-mail domain. [15:54] m_kiewitz: that is not how LE domain verification works, you have to put a specific file on the web server in a specific location [15:55] anyway the whole concept is broken and makes no sense. That's why I'm running an add-in to check certificates and tell me, when something changed [15:55] snover: and that's secure now? [15:55] come on [15:55] m_kiewitz: http://codeverge.com/mozilla.dev.security.policy/incident-report-ocr/2045814 [15:55] it's absolutely silly to do something like this automatically [15:55] for an example of validation fail [15:55] sure, you could MITM the LE authority somehow [15:56] you could hack the web server, put a file there, bingo, valid certificate [15:57] if you can hack the web server then you can just take the existing key from the server [15:57] not always [15:57] LePhilousophe: "Comodo's immediate response to the disclosure was ... disable the use of OCR" lmao [15:57] sometimes you can through a PHP script drop some file [15:57] not read everything [15:58] m_kiewitz: :) [15:58] automation is great, but for security things - nope [16:00] at my hospital, we are verifying fax machine phone numbers, most of that is automated, but the replies that we get are processed manually [16:05] great btw. my browser trusts "China Financial Ceritification authority", "Chunghwa Telecom Co., Ltd.", "Intel corporation", "Japanese government" and so on and so on. [16:05] LePhilousophe: if the server is set up correctly you could not use a script file drop since the directory the file goes to is aliased to an path only writable by the LE user [16:05] if every software had no security issues... [16:05] and if every admin did a perfect job... [16:05] etc. [16:06] there is no perfect security, only hopefully-good-enough security [16:07] if at least all browsers would keep such signatures and then verify them again when the user visits the site again [16:07] PKI is a broken model, WOT is too difficult [16:07] sure quite a few false alarms, but still [16:07] m_kiewitz: there is HPKP [16:08] yeah my problem is that the whole system behind it is flawed. You trust quite a few companies and every single one could get hacked in some way or fooled or whatever and your browser will show that everything's fine [16:09] but what's worse is that for example mozilla goes berserk when there is a self-signed certificate [16:09] why is that worse? [16:10] or let's say US government sends a letter to one of those American companies, they can get whatever certificate they need [16:10] because self-signed doesn't automatically mean bad [16:10] just as signed by some big company doesn't automatically mean that it's all fine [16:11] Strangerke_ (~Strangerk@cable-85.28.84.13.coditel.net) joined #scummvm. [16:11] what is your alternative solution that works better? [16:11] I read some forum and some blogs, which offer a secured connection, but the certificate is self signed and mozilla basically goes crazy [16:11] well the current one isn't a solution and it's broken completely and also makes no sense when you think about it [16:12] WinterGrascph (~WinterGra@winter.sch.bme.hu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:12] the only truly secure cryptography is a one-time pad [16:12] but what IS worse is that all sorts of browsers tell the user that "signed by big company" == green and totally great [16:12] otherwise there are all sorts of ways to defeat the system [16:12] and that's simply wrong. [16:13] this isn't even about some encryption standard, but about the way those certificates work [16:13] PGP signatures for example work w/ a web of trust [16:13] Strangerke (~Strangerk@cable-85.28.84.13.coditel.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [16:13] Nick change: Strangerke_ -> Strangerke [16:13] at the very least it doesn't rely on big companies to sign stuff [16:14] that's also not perfect, but at least no big companies and programs don't go crazy when someone had the audacity to not give some big company money to get a signed certificate [16:16] random individuals you dont know (and who may not actually exist) signing keys is more secure than big companies signing keys? [16:16] because&money? [16:19] random? [16:20] PGP works with a web of trust and you should and could also exchange keys in person [16:20] that's definitely way more secure than some company "verifying" something automatically [16:21] and what's worse is that your browser doesn't even differentiate between "same certificate as last time" and "new certificate" and "new certificate signed by completely different company" [16:21] with PGP such cases wouldn't be possible, because there is one key that you trust as being from a specific person [16:22] are you supposed to sign the key used by amazon.com and google.com and whatever? how is that supposed to work? how far do you decide to extend your trust? if you trust person A, who trusts person B, who trusts person C, who has signed for amazon.com, are you going to trust that key is valid? [16:22] and not basically going "oh well, I trust this company in US and this company in Japan and this other company in China and this and that government and whatever they signed is totally valid and secure and verified and I trust those 100%" [16:23] if someone sets up 1000 fake identities and signs a bad key for amazon.com are you going to trust it because it has a lot of signatures? [16:23] no, key exchange is a problem in such situations [16:23] BUT after a proper key exchange there wouldn't be an issue anymore [16:23] you could for example get a key with your amazon order that you enter into your system [16:23] and then you would have one key for exactly that [16:23] key exchange is always problematic [16:24] but with the current model, there are basically an unlimited number of keys, which may change at any moment and your browser won't even tell you about it [16:24] BUT will crazy when you surf to a forum with a self signed certificate [16:25] I go to twitter for github status, but where do I go for twitter status...? [16:25] madmoose: downforeveryoneorjustme.com [16:25] ^^ [16:26] right, I should have remembered that :) [16:26] HPKP is designed to mitigate the key which may change at any moment problem [16:26] ajax16384 (~User@ip33.net130.n37.ru) joined #scummvm. [16:26] #scummvm: mode change '+o ajax16384' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [16:29] WooShell (~Markus@ipbcc071f7.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #scummvm. [16:29] https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2016/03/30/http-public-key-pinning-youre-doing-it-wrong.html [16:29] WooShell: Woo! [16:29] Only 0.09% of the certificates in Netcraft's March 2016 SSL Survey are served with HPKP headers [16:30] But more surprisingly, around a third of these sites are using the HPKP header incorrectly, which effectively disables HPKP. [16:30] lol [16:31] meow =^.^= [16:37] m_kiewitz: that article seems to make a great argument in favour of security automation :) [16:40] snover: where? I haven't read the whole thing [16:40] yay, found an ip for github. Who needs dns anyway? [16:40] madmoose: oh, i guess you are dealing with the dyn ddos [16:41] yes [16:42] snover: or do you mean automation for configuration? Because all sorts of sites do not do it properly? [16:42] i would rather see that as a failure in design, not specification and software itself [16:42] and HPKP is another band-aid anyway [16:43] well the design is what it needs to be in order to work correctly. its not the designs fault that someone writes sha245 instead of sha256 :) [16:43] and why does software even allow a user to do so in the first place? [16:43] no checks in place [16:44] h00ligan (~User@ip33.net130.n37.ru) joined #scummvm. [16:44] #scummvm: mode change '+o h00ligan' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [16:47] ajax16384 (~User@ip33.net130.n37.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:56] _sev|work (~sev@scummvm/undead/sev) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [17:35] TMM (~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm) joined #scummvm. [17:35] #scummvm: mode change '+o TMM' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [18:02] _sev|work (~sev@92.110.93.218) joined #scummvm. 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[18:21] ignalina (~pettersjo@c83-249-1-181.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:24] ced117 (~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117) joined #scummvm. [18:28] ignalina (~pettersjo@c83-249-1-181.bredband.comhem.se) joined #scummvm. [18:28] niska` (~niska@68.ip-149-56-14.net) joined #scummvm. [18:29] niska (~niska@68.ip-149-56-14.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:34] te_lanus (~te_lanus@154.66.195.97) joined #scummvm. [18:36] I bet :P [18:36] what's your interest? (personal inquiry) [18:48] ced117 (~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [18:52] ced117_ (~ced117@ghost.ced117.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:57] ced117_ (~ced117@ghost.ced117.net) joined #scummvm. [19:08] omer_mor (~Omer@46-117-132-33.bb.netvision.net.il) joined #scummvm. [19:10] OmerMor (~Omer@46-117-132-33.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:11] saru97 (b630ea02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.48.234.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:26] ced117 (~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117) joined #scummvm. [19:36] criezy (~criezy@host31-51-181-69.range31-51.btcentralplus.com) joined #scummvm. [19:36] #scummvm: mode change '+o criezy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [19:42] SylvainTV (~SylvainTV@LFbn-1-8392-241.w81-254.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #scummvm. [19:42] #scummvm: mode change '+o SylvainTV' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [19:50] how do people feel about my random blabbing about whatever im working on in here? too much? not enough? just right? [19:51] |Cable| (~cable@33.138.117.91.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:51] interesting? boring? continental or the full porky? [19:52] I'd love for there to be more scummvm talk in here [19:56] snover, I love it [19:56] snover, I learned a lot, and it got me looking at workarounds.cpp to fix my own shit (r) [19:57] snover, please continue! [19:57] ny00123 (~ny00123@46-116-115-228.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:59] I'll secont TMM's recommendation [20:00] ok, cool. [20:03] |Cable| (~cable@33.138.117.91.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) joined #scummvm. [20:03] also i hope someone caught that reference [20:06] I don't know what 'the full porky' is :) [20:06] ...sadly I can't remember it :-( [20:07] any idea what this means: Could not load widget position for 'GameOptions_Graphics.grFilteringCheckbox'! [20:07] mismatch between scummvm version and theme version? Not 100% sure though [20:08] (That would mean we forgot to change the version of the theme maybe) [20:08] te_lanus, when do you see this? [20:08] trying to add a game [20:10] wjp downloaded the git this morning (zip file) and compiled, and running from the source dir [20:10] what platform? [20:10] Linux, Ubuntu Mate 16.04.1 [20:10] x64 [20:12] ny00123 (~ny00123@46-116-115-228.bb.netvision.net.il) joined #scummvm. [20:13] which theme? [20:13] or maybe that's a meaningless question if you hadn't run it yet [20:13] Modern theme [20:13] have you tried removing any config files? [20:13] Action: wjp is rebuilding things locally in the meantime [20:14] also, do you have a different scummvm installed? [20:14] since it might be picking up theme files from /usr [20:17] seems somewhere the ini file might have been wrong [20:17] removed the ini file and it's working again [20:17] but it does seem we forgot to update the theme version [20:18] I think [20:19] is github really slow for anyone else here? [20:20] not for me, but someone on another channel mentioned it too [20:20] suffering from that dns ddos attack as well [20:20] Indeed I forgot to update the theme version when adding the filtering checkbox. [20:23] #scummvm: mode change '+o Strangerke' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [20:27] GitHub89 (~GitHub89@192.30.252.34) joined #scummvm. [20:27] [scummvm-web] hpvb pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vPdFV [20:27] scummvm-web/master 0424e7a Hein-Pieter van Braam: WEB: Add win32 tools for 1.9.0 [20:27] GitHub89 (GitHub89@192.30.252.34) left #scummvm. [20:32] Hmm, that version had not been updated when adding all the cloud stuff either... [20:33] yeah... oops... [20:34] I will update it now. I suppose it's better late than never. [20:35] LyTchet (~alexandre@host-95-182-242-222.dynamic.voo.be) joined #scummvm. [20:39] _sev: There is no page for the GCW-Zero on our wiki. [20:39] Could you create one with the appropriate information on what features it supports (zlib, mp3, ogg...)? [20:40] <_sev> criezy: yep, will do [20:40] GitHub130 (~GitHub130@192.30.252.45) joined #scummvm. [20:40] [scummvm] criezy pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vPdN2 [20:40] scummvm/master 8b1bb08 Thierry Crozat: GUI: Increase theme version... [20:40] GitHub130 (GitHub130@192.30.252.45) left #scummvm. [20:40] GitHub53 (~GitHub53@192.30.252.45) joined #scummvm. [20:40] [scummvm] criezy pushed 1 new commit to branch-1-9: https://git.io/vPdNa [20:40] scummvm/branch-1-9 8b0392b Thierry Crozat: GUI: Increase theme version... [20:40] GitHub53 (GitHub53@192.30.252.45) left #scummvm. 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[21:31] the win32 tools actually have a bug with wxwidgets [21:31] they work but wx first gives an error [21:31] I'll fix that I guess [21:31] *sigh* [21:31] didn't see there was a -gui version [21:34] I get some 'Shifting a negative signed value is undefined' warnings in bbvs (in bbant.cpp lines 591, 733, 734 and 934). [21:34] Is it worth opening a bug for this? [21:35] any sound subsystem gurus around? is there a way to individually set left and right channel volume without using Mixer::setChannelBalance() ? [21:35] _sev, crap, this probably means we'll have to do another win32 release for scummv.exe as well, it looks like I built wxwidgets with debug support and there's a screen in sparkle that also does something wx doesn't like [21:35] _sev, it'll throw a debug dialog [21:37] <_sev> TMM: ok. what could we do [21:37] GitHub85 (~GitHub85@192.30.252.46) joined #scummvm. [21:37] [scummvm] wjp pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vPFIc [21:37] scummvm/master bbd5b89 Willem Jan Palenstijn: BLADERUNNER: Fix presumable typo [21:37] GitHub85 (GitHub85@192.30.252.46) left #scummvm. [21:38] _sev, nvm, this will only affect our static sparkle builds, the current builds we have are fine [21:38] _sev, tested with that version here... sorry [21:39] for tools I'll do the new release now [21:39] Great. I won't have to prepare a 1.9.0.3 version for OS X. :P [21:40] criezy, you have to keep those versions the same? [21:40] There is an issue with Sparkle (see bug #9620). [21:40] oh, fun [21:41] Basically if we propose a new version for Windows but not for mac, mac users will be proposed to update to the Windows version. [21:41] Which doesn't work so well on a mac... [21:41] oh, that's nice [21:43] they are actually bugs in our code, I'll just fix the wxwidgets [21:43] Sparkle feeds format allows specifying update's platform with the sparkle:os attribute, which makes it possible to have e.g. files for both OS X and Windows in a single appcast [21:47] Yes, we do use that. But unfortunatly that is ignored in the mac Sparkle. [21:49] ok, fixed [21:51] we're apparently trying to use style hints that wx doesn't support [21:51] I don't know why these errors appear now in my build, but perhaps the wx we used to use didn't display the errors [21:51] it's probably still better to just fix the code, right? [21:52] <_sev> indeed [21:54] oh, found a crash too it seems [21:58] h00ligan (~User@ip33.net130.n37.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:14] waltervn (~waltervn@82-171-142-149.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:14] ok, figured it out, need to do some other fixes, in the meantime I managed to shut up wxwindows [22:14] I'll just build it as it was and try to fix it for 1.9.1, the linux version of the tools windows are all messed up too [22:29] whyyy is this windows vm using 90% cpu doing nothing [22:36] It's Windows [22:37] I currently have a problem under Windows, that with a certain printer type the output is 1/4th of the size [22:37] and it seems the problem only happens, when no printer selection dialog was shown [22:37] it's completely crazy [22:38] and what's even more crazy is that printing works on some computers, where the driver was installed some months ago [22:39] but when you now remove the printer connection and reconnect, that issue happens [22:39] IT says that printer driver wasn't changed and there seems to be only 1 driver version for this type of printer [22:42] ok, win32 tools builds are now ok [22:56] criezy: thats weird since the official publishing documentation says the same thing [22:58] Yes it is weird, and we didn't expect it. 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